{"id":3219,"date":"2014-11-21T10:50:47","date_gmt":"2014-11-21T15:50:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/web.uri.edu\/studentsenate\/?p=3219"},"modified":"2014-11-21T10:50:47","modified_gmt":"2014-11-21T15:50:47","slug":"executive-9-4-2013","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/web.uri.edu\/studentsenate\/executive-9-4-2013\/","title":{"rendered":"Executive 9-4-2013"},"content":{"rendered":"

MEETING START TIME: <\/strong>5:07<\/p>\n

ATTENDANCE: <\/strong><\/p>\n

Solomon, Zawatsky, Kempler, Kilduff, Cicero, Weinreich, Sim, Rode, Patterson, Lanoie, Sit<\/p>\n

GENERAL DISCUSSION: <\/strong><\/p>\n

Kilduff: <\/strong>We need off campus seats, so talk to your friends who live off campus.<\/p>\n

Bruce:<\/strong> I have a copy of the university manual and the general council approached us about a student group that drove an issue for him. He doesn\u2019t care how we do it, but there is a liability issue because there are groups that exist that aren\u2019t recognized. The vice president says we need to solve this. Recognition of student organizations and graduate student organizations should be a part of student senate. Naomi is the associate vice president, Annie\u2014GLBTQ, and many other members of my staff, the chair of the 20,000 voices: I have spoken to all of them; honor societies aside (we don\u2019t have to worry about them). I got in touch with your SOARC chair. You have an affiliate process. SOLC takes us up to this point. We can bring back into senate some organizations that have not been able to be recognized in order to get rid of the liability issue. The catch on the whole thing is that under the affiliate status, it references the bylaws for obvious reasons\u2014no discrimination (which we support). You can\u2019t be an affiliate unless you go through the normal process and you have been excluded. We are going to try to meet with Sam Flycek before this gets voted on. Kyle might have more to add, seeing as this is his bill. This came out because we have been challenged by (in a nice way) general council. This is an attempt to solve the long term problem<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: Hopefully everyone has had the chance to read the bill. This is an attempt to solve many other issues. This way we can bring more groups and more of the campus to work with us. Any questions?<\/p>\n

Rode<\/strong>: What benefits would affiliates have?<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: They would be eligible to contact finance.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: They get rid of the liability problem by just being recognized alone. People have been looking the other way but we can\u2019t do that. The last thing we want to talk about is going through the university faculty senate.<\/p>\n

Kilduff<\/strong>: It\u2019s important to remember that this bill isn\u2019t recognizing any groups at all. Its just laying groundwork to giving us the power to do what we have to do. It\u2019ll lead up to questions for other days. But this is just giving us more power.<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: We are requiring them to follow the process that any other group would follow. That\u2019ll all be in here.<\/p>\n

Zawatsky<\/strong>: can you describe the liability issue<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: If BOND, or other groups, had an event off campus (for example) and something happens, the first thing lawyers will do is say the group isn\u2019t recognized. The university is at fault. In the manual it says only the student senate can recognize it. The other thing it says is that no student organization can use the university name in outside activities unless it is approved by me.<\/p>\n

Zawatsky<\/strong>: So it\u2019s not the liability of the club?<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: the club membership would be liable. Let\u2019s say someone is hurt, it\u2019s a combination of the group: the group would be sued, I\u2019d probably be sued, senate would be sued, and the university could be sued.<\/p>\n

Kilduff<\/strong>: If they did have that event under us, they\u2019d have to follow our rules.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: Another possibility is when a non-recognized group does something with a recognized group.<\/p>\n

Rode<\/strong>: I\u2019m just curious about the \u201ccreates, recognizes, and funds\u201d the group<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: Anything to do with contingencies and budgeting goes to Chairman Sit.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: You\u2019re taking the SOLC model, and saying it will fit for these things.<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: There are organizations that I can think of that can brought in with this, but that is long term and a bigger issue. This will quickly take care of the liability issue.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: everyone has to go through the RAM process first<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: These groups have been going through an offhanded kind of process, so this is also taking care of that.<\/p>\n

Kilduff<\/strong>: Affiliates are NOT the same as our normal RAMS groups but this is just a way to get those groups going.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: If someone has an issue with funding, that\u2019s fine but that\u2019s not a part of this discussion. You might say I support this; I just don\u2019t want to fund this.<\/p>\n

Rode<\/strong>: So, it\u2019s us accepting all student groups, but how do we separate who we can and can\u2019t?<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: they still have to go through your process<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: If we pass this, and affiliates come, I\u2019ll have them apply and then figure it out. I won\u2019t begin this until after the Re-rec bill. This is us extending our recognition. SOLC is the only affiliate we have right now, so think about things like Peer Advocates that are in the grey area with potential to bring a whole new side to what senate can offer to this community. As we move forward, we\u2019ll have to be careful with this. I don\u2019t think we\u2019ll ever be at the point where we\u2019re just passing everyone. It all still needs to be passed by senate.<\/p>\n

Zawatsky<\/strong>: There\u2019s a reason that this is a new thing, and we don\u2019t want to start contradicting our own beliefs<\/p>\n

Cicero<\/strong>: Everything still goes through SOARC, this is just saying that now we can say yes we can recognize you now<\/em>. This is only expanding.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: The group still has to justify their mission and whatnot.<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: As distasteful as it is, if an Elitist group shows that they are following the bylaws, but they\u2019re saying they want affiliate status, they are showing no greater purpose. This is just an expansion. We\u2019re not saying we can recognize everyone, but it really is just an expansion.<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: We haven\u2019t talked to the groups yet. And we\u2019re going to tell them they can\u2019t have it both ways. I would urge you to try to talk in general terms when you have a debate about this. Talk about selective membership and stay away from examples in general discussion.<\/p>\n

Weinreich<\/strong>: If we\u2019re getting too many examples on the floor, it\u2019ll be a problem because it\u2019s not about anyone specific.<\/p>\n

Rode<\/strong>: I just want to throw out there that we don\u2019t have our old bylaws and we\u2019re already making changes.<\/p>\n

Zawatsky<\/strong>: Hypothetically, if we extend affiliation to a group and they refuse, are they officially dissolved?<\/p>\n

Bruce<\/strong>: that becomes an issue for the institution to be sure that they follow up with what they\u2019ve charged us to do. I\u2019m hoping that this will make some of these problems go away<\/p>\n

Kilduff<\/strong>: I\u2019m going to call for a vote now. We\u2019re going to vote on whether or not to bring this to the floor. The bill is SS-13\/14-20\u2014Bill Calling for the Revision of Article X of the Stuident Senate Bylaws<\/strong><\/p>\n

Vote: 11-0-0<\/p>\n

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MEETING ADJOURNMENT TIME: <\/strong>5:52<\/p>\n

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